Imperial Party forum

Athelstan I · Guest

I think the time has come to say that the Economic system we have had for the last 300-400 years has now reached its theoretical limits, and can longer serve us. We have now come to realise that we live on a Planet with limited natural resources and if we are to secure a future and good standard of living for generations to come we must be good stewerd of this fertile planet.

While the idea of "Economic Growth" served us well during the fossil fuel powered Industrial revolution and has brought us up to todays technological state, we must now begin to build a new system and idea of economics.

Three things I would like to focus on are as follows.

1. The Monetery System
2. Our Energy Infastructure
3. Consumption

1. It is suprising how many so called environmentalists miss the most important subject when its comes to environmental depletion, and that is our system of currency, credit and money.
Our Money system parpetuates infinite Growth, when you borrow a loan from a Bank the bank attaches interest to that loan that has to be paid back, but they do not create that interest therefore it mean that we must all compete against one another to pay back our loans.
This in turn is one causes bankruptencies becuese its is in essance and economics game of musical chairs, some people are always bound to defualt on there loans, er hmm 2008.

I propose the following

The Introduciton of Usery Rates, setting a maximum interest that can be charged at 5%.

We must also outlaw the creation of money by the Private banking system and make its the sole perogative on the National Government, regulated by Parliament.

2. Energy Infastructure.

This is talked about alot, I dont really need to say to much.

Government investment into Wind, Wave, Solar, Geothermal, Biomass and Nuclear Fusion.

Energy efficiancy in all buildings.

the weaning off of fossil fuels.

3. Consumption

It may upset a few people that in the future we might have to pay a bit more, but the benefits will be huge, the UK and the World have a growing waste problem.
to tackle this problem we need to start at the very begining of the manufacturing process, building things that are not built to last real is criminal in environmental terms as it means endlessly throwing away valuable resources, I believe that you should be able to go and by a Mobile Phone that will alst 25+ years and the only thing you have to upgrade is the software. BUILD THINGS TO LAST.
We should also do as much production as we can locally as shipping things half-way accross the world is highly expensive in environmental temrs.
As for Recycling, we really need a National Policy at looking for go for a 100% recycling within the next 10 years, I believe this can be done, anything that really cannot be recycled will have to be dumped as safely with the least environmental impact as possible.

Just a few ideas, I wanted to brainstorm, think they would be good for the Imperial Party.

thomas davison · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject:

Barn Storming part 1

1. The Monetary System
2. Our Energy Infastructure
3. Consumption

We need to get back on the Gold standard or start again with a silver standard after all the Pound was supposed to be a pound in weight in silver.
This would mean that they could not print money unless it was backed by gold or silver, then the pound would be strong again.
All the pundits say we need to keep our currency in line with Europe so as we can sell our goods,
Goods, what do we make in this country any more?
The world is due for a huge depression, countries are trillions in debt, including ourselves,with no way to pay it off so the big bang will have to happen soon, by the way where did this debt come from?
Interest rates have to be lowered, credit cards need a 5% rate, taxes need to be lowered to stimulate growth, 10% on income tax, and get rid of the annual rise in house rates for a start.
The first thing we need to do is get our house in order, we need to produce, we do not need non producers, government needs to be trimmed down from councils up over.
Training starting in the schools for the new industries that we will need in the future, no more Mickey Mouse degrees which are as much use as a chocolate ashtray.
More debate needed here.

Our Energy infrastucture.
In the short term we will have to go Nuclear until someone comes up with another method that works.

Consumption:
Recycling has to be a way of life, food needs to be grown locally in vertical farms, we do not want to import anything if we can help it, we need to make everything in the UK.
But then this raises the problem of peoples expectations, today no-one wants to give up anything they are used to, overseas holidays, 3 cars etc etc, this will have to change and sooner than later.
In general there will have to be a new way of government, taxation, work, homes, agriculture and water preservation in our country for us to survive,
We could of course go back to being a seafaring nation and all that entails.

Comments please.

Athelstan I · Guest

Everything you said there Mr. Davison was right, I only take issue that we have to go back to the Gold Standard, I do not believe that will work as if every country on Earth went back to a precious metal standard there would just not be enough money to go around, you would have hyper-deflation instead of inflation.

A Government issued, fiat currency, controlled by a Central Bank but one that is truly nationalised.

Since the depression some have said that the era of private banking is over, maybe this is true look how many banks have gone to the wall and the ones left still standing most of them are propt up by the Taxpayer. :?

thomas davison · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:01 pm Post subject:

One of the reasons I said we should go back to the gold/silver standard are, with this system there cannot be more money circulating in the country than you have gold/whatever in the bank, this would stop the printing of money adhoc, make government more think before giving it way on silly schemes and make them more accountable. Not to mention the end of the personal and national spiraling debt.
In short people would have to have the money before they could buy anything, cards out of the window, and when they bought whatever, car for instance, they would take more care of it.
Hard to do but in the long run you at least have a grip on expenditure.

Athelstan I · Guest

Athelstan I · Guest

Frogot One!.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6uuAupT4AQ&feature=related

thomas davison · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:16 pm Post subject:

If you want to know where the economy is heading, watch the price of oil. Oil is used to power over 90% of our transportation fleet from land, sea, to air. It is responsible for 95% of the production of all goods found in stores. It is also directly linked to 95% of our food products, from the fertilizer used in the planting cycle to the diesel used in tractors to the trucks that transport the food to processing plants and grocery stores. Look behind any consumer item, building material, to medical device and you will find it linked to oil in some way. Plain and simple, we live in a petroleum based society. It is the common thread behind all industrial/modern economies. Without oil our present way of life would cease to exist

thomas davison · Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:46 pm Post subject:

Your right it is all one big PONZI scheme and we are not benefiting one iota.