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FAMILIES MUST HELP CARE FOR THE ELDERLY, WHO PAYS, YOU AGAIN

 
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thomas davison
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:27 am    Post subject: FAMILIES MUST HELP CARE FOR THE ELDERLY, WHO PAYS, YOU AGAIN Reply with quote

Families 'must be told to help care for their elderly relatives rather than rely on the NHS'
By Daniel Martin
PUBLISHED: 00:50, 2 August 2012 | UPDATED: 00:56, 2 August 2012

Families should do more to ensure their elderly relatives get the care they need rather than always relying on the NHS and local councils, a health policy expert said yesterday.

Lord Darzi, once appointed by Gordon Brown as a health minister, said the state should �demand� people take �greater responsibility� for the health and social care of themselves and their families.

But he said family members who care for older relatives should receive greater financial help from the state.

Families should not rely on the NHS for care of the elderly, a government health minister has said
He made his comments at the first Global Health Policy Summit in London�s Guildhall for international politicians and policy makers.

They come weeks after Health Secretary Andrew Lansley published a White Paper saying people would have to share the cost of long-term care with the state.


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He said he was wedded to the idea of a cap on the amount a family would have to contribute, but said there was not enough money in the coffers for the state to pay the full cost.

'Pressures from an aging society': Lord Darzi
In his speech, Lord Darzi told delegates that all health systems, including the NHS, faced pressures from the ageing society. He said: �Global health reformers must not be afraid to step beyond the boundaries of health.

There is much that is outside our control. Questions that our societies must answer together.

�We should demand greater personal and family responsibility for health and for care. And as we do, we must find better ways to support carers � in employment, housing and financial support.�

It was reported yesterday that in an earlier draft of his speech, Lord Darzi had gone even further. He planned to warn that �social and demographic changes�, such as the increased rate of family break-ups, may result in fewer potential carers.

He also planned to point out: �In France and India, for example, adult children have legal and financial obligations towards their elderly parents.�
In the delivered version of the speech, he said patients must get used to the fact they may not always be treated by the best qualified doctor available, but �by the most appropriately qualified�.

�We need to focus the most highly qualified staff where they are needed the most,� he said. �Patients must embrace the changed reality.
�If we don�t make the best use of our doctors, our systems will go bust,� he added.

If the U.K. did not have open doors to the world giving homes, benefits, family allowances, schooling, pensions and medical care to all non British people whose familys and forefathers have contributed ZERO to the U.K. there would be more than enough to look after our own.

If the country had not been flooded since the sixties with immigrants both legal and illegal, there would be more than enough money in the coffers to provide the care that we thought we would get in old age.We were sold the idea of the NHS and NI contributions as a system that was self financing and one that would look after us if needed. What we were not told was that millions from around the world would be allowed to settle here causing this upset in the budgets. Get a grip and publicly say that these are the real reasons we can no longer afford what is our right not a duty.
And while we are on throw all those who should not be here out, we are not mulitcultural and do not want to be.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:22 pm    Post subject: Euthanasia Reply with quote

I do agree that families should look after their elderly relatives and if they are not prepared to must accept that third parties ie residential homes must be paid for out of the estates of old people.
We simply cannot afford to pay for the millions of elderly needing help. Its beyond the financial reach of any country.
I also think advanced alzheimers and other degenerative diseases need euthanising. The cost of keeping dementias alive when they are totally out of it is horrific and living wills should be made so if we reach this condition we can be put out of our misery.
We really have to face up to dealing with huge numbers of infirm old people.
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