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TEAR GAS. TAZERS, WATER CANNON ON OUR STREETS IN MONTHS

 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:38 am    Post subject: TEAR GAS. TAZERS, WATER CANNON ON OUR STREETS IN MONTHS Reply with quote

Water cannons may be on our streets within months: Tear gas and Tasers also on police 'wish list' to combat riots
Senior officers say they are 'valuable' crowd control weapons

Machines cost 1.3m but could provide fast response to violent outbreaks
The Government signals it will foot the bill
Critics say they will turn police into 'paramilitary force'
By Chris Greenwood
PUBLISHED: 22:50, 13 March 2012 | UPDATED: 07:16, 14 March 2012


Every police force could have access to a water cannon within months as police chiefs vow to prevent a repeat of last summer's riots.
Senior officers are demanding the 'valuable' crowd control weapons, previously deployed by UK police only in Northern Ireland, and the Government has signalled that it will foot the bill.
Three of the fearsome 1.3million machines could be held at strategic locations to provide fast response to any outbreaks of violence.
Controversial water cannons are sanctioned for use in Northern Ireland. Here, nationalist youths come under attack in the Ardoyne area of Belfast in 2001
Chief constables are also considering whether tear gas and Taser stun guns could be used to restore order.
It would be the first time that any of the three weapons have been used for crowd control on the British mainland, and would represent a dramatic escalation in the armoury available for tackling mass disorder.



But critics said the move risks further transforming the police into a 'paramilitary force'.
It came as the Metropolitan Police published a review of the four days of rioting that shamed the nation last August.
Crowd control: The device has been used to quell trouble in Northern Ireland and now chief constables on the mainland are considering using them
Officers gave first-hand accounts of how they heroically confronted rampaging mobs with limited equipment and no back-up.
Some admitted they feared for their lives and, hopelessly outnumbered, were forced to leave homes and businesses to burn.
Senior officers, who say they will do 'everything possible' to prevent a repeat of the shocking scenes, are overhauling tactics to speed up the response to flashpoints and to improve how they monitor tensions in potential trouble-spots.
Plans to bring in cannons come as the Metropolitan Police has published a review of the four days of rioting the started in London last summer
Outnumbered: Concerns have been raised that police using water cannons could be too heavy handed and send out the wrong message
A series of reviews into the riots have blamed police for failing to react quickly enough to simmering community tensions last summer
They also threw their weight behind the introduction of water cannon to the streets of England and Wales.
The report said the Met has concluded that 'water cannon would be valuable in a few rare situations' and guidelines could be published within months.
Experts say the machines are too slow-moving to have been deployed effectively during the fast-moving August riots, and need to be refilled frequently, but their use could be considered in static or slow-moving clashes, for example when high-profile locations come under siege.
Terrifying image: Police chiefs are vowing to crack down on any attempt to repeat the riots of last August
The Government has signalled it will foot the bill for the water cannon if police can demonstrate they would be a cost-effective national asset.
The Met also revealed that a national review is taking place over whether Taser stun guns could be fired during riots and disorder.
Police are currently banned from using the 50,000-volt weapons in public order clashes because of the dangers of firing into a moving crowd.
Tasers were controversially fired five times as police helped to evict 80 families from the Dale Farm travellers' site in Essex last year.
Police chiefs are also examining whether tear gas canisters could be set off as a 'last resort' to disperse crowds.
CS gas, as the most commonly-used form is known, is often used during violent clashes on the Continent.
The noxious chemical clouds cause streaming eyes and coughing, in effect incapacitating the subject.
Police are already authorised to deploy the gas when faced with the risk of death, serious injury or substantial damage to property.
But it has not been used for crowd control because of fears that it is indiscriminate and could cause panic.
Police chiefs are grappling with widespread fears that fresh rioting could break out, fuelled by unemployment, political discontent and the struggling economy.
A series of reviews into the riots have blamed police for failing to react quickly enough to simmering community tensions last summer.
Critics have questioned whether ramping up the armoury of weapons available to police is the best way to tackle disorder.
A report by the Commons home affairs select committee said it would have been 'inappropriate as well as dangerous' to use water cannon during the summer riots.
Amnesty International has said it supports the self-imposed police ban on using Tasers in public protest situations and called for money to be spent on better training instead.
Jenny Jones, who sits on London's police and crime committee, said: 'The use of Tasers, CS gas and water cannon signals a dangerous escalation of police tactics.
'It risks turning the police into a paramilitary force. We are lucky to have policing by consent in this country, and this is a step on the wrong direction.'
Scotland Yard Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said the August riots were 'without precedent' and 'stretched the Met beyond all anticipated capability'.
He said: 'Having faced unprecedented challenge we are determined to do all we can to improve.'
In December a watchdog highlighted how arsonists who put lives at risk during rioting could be lawfully shot dead by police.
Sir Denis O'Connor, Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Constabulary, said the use of firearms could be justified given the 'immediacy of the risk and the gravity of the consequences'.





Just the thing for dealing with looters. Also handy for those awkward moments when the people decide that they've had enough of the EU and demand to leave. In fact no modern police state existing on the back of taxpayers should be without an impressive fleet of water canons and stockpiles of rubber bullets, CS gas, tasers and attack helicopters. The water canon. For when you absolutely definitely positively have to destroy any last trace of democracy.

Police chiefs are grappling with widespread fears that fresh rioting could break out, fuelled by unemployment, political discontent and the struggling economy.

Since when did police chiefs give a monkeys about the public other than to shoot them or kill them under any excuse, time to turn the tables, the police are there to protect YOU, not politicians who want you as slaves and if they will not do it we will have to protect ourselves and fight back.

It seems the government knows something that we do not, if this country is sinking into a police state be prepared to fight for your liberty with any means you can.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotland Yard planned to fire rubber bullets on streets of London 22 times in two yearsAlmost 3,000 baton rounds were prepared for use
By Emily Allen
PUBLISHED: 14:10, 17 March 2012 | UPDATED: 14:10, 17 March 2012



The Met Police could have opened fire on crowds with rubber bullets 22 times in the past two years, it has been revealed.
Scotland Yard approved the deployment of the controversial non-lethal rounds but has refused to reveal when and where, claiming such details could jeopardise future policing operations.
Information shows almost 3,000 baton rounds were prepared for use by firearms teams as the force tried to crack down on public disorder incidents in London such as the riots of August last year.
Scotland Yard has refused to say where and when the bullets (pictured) would have been deployed
The rounds have still never been been fired on the British mainland - although they have been used in Northern Ireland for many years.
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These latest figures, published in the Independent, indicate a significant escalation in police tactics to deal with what police see as an increased threat to them and the public from gangs and people determined to create violent disorder.

Earlier this week it emerged that officers wanted to fire baton rounds at rioters in Croydon last summer - but the opportunity passed because the only available rounds were with squads attending disturbances elsewhere.
Earlier this week it emerged that officers wanted to fire baton rounds at rioters in Croydon last summer
A report into the riots, published on Wednesday, said police are now looking at 'more assertive' tactics and are considering using CS gas, water cannons and stun guns to quell public disorder.
The Met said it intends to make 'more agile use' of rubber bullets, which are now referred to in police jargon as attenuating energy projectiles.
London mayor Boris Johnson confirmed the 22 rounds had been distributed in a written answer to a question asked by Liberal Democrat peer Dee Doocey last month.
Baroness Doocey, a member of the Greatr London Authority and the Metropolitan Police Authority is among the many opponents of rubber bullets being used to counter the threat of violence to police and the public.
She said disclosing the dates on which they could have been used was in the public interest.

She told the Independent: 'It is simply wrong for the Met to be silent when on so many occasions the use of rubber bullets was being considered.'
Between 2006 and 2011 the Met bought 2,700 AEP rounds


If the police use any type of lethal weapons on the public they are stupid, people will find weapons of their own and start to kill the police but there again that seems to be what they plan.

WHEN INJUSTICE BECOMES LAW REBELLION BECOMES YOUR DUTY
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may not be the case, but out the Government planning for a Greek style meltdown, correct me If i am wrong but are not Britains finances actually worse that Greece although the Government is cooking books,

Still its a dangerous game, when the shit hits the fans it doesnt matter how many fancie toys they have, they cant stop a Revolution.

The only problem is Greece was that the people stopped being Active, there should have been a General Strike that will last untill Greece leave the Euro.
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